When sending a Dynlist to coworkers, is there a way to make these links automatically expand all the bullet items?
It is awesome that I can send them a link to a sublist, but if they arenât accustomed to the way that Dynalist works, they wonât understand that there are sub-elements.
We used to have an admin-only option for this called âSync collapsed stateâ, which was quite a confusing name for it.
The reason is that even when two people share the same document, we want them to be able to collapse and expand different things, if that makes sense. Otherwise if the other guy wants to see the details of something, the collapsed state changes will get synced to your side as well.
Because of this, that option we built only syncs the âsnapshotâ of the collapsed states to the publicly shared documents. Otherwise if you want the visitors to see the document in a certain state, you canât change it for yourself either.
The concepts here are quite confusing⌠let me know if you need more explanation, @LinuxLefty.
Iâd really like this feature. In WorkFlowy it works like this: you setup the list the way you want it to be seen when it is first shared. Then you share it and the person receiving it sees the list initially the way you made it look. Anything they or you do after that to it, is on each own side.
This needs to be changed. Iâm sending shared lists to people and when they see only one or two totally collapsed nodes they get back to me and say âSorry, it seems I donât have access to itâ. It not clear at all for first timers that they can expand those nodes.
Meanwhile, a working workaround on my side has been to include a note on the parent item explaining that and how they can expand all items. Iâve also included a screenshot in that note.
Hi there!
Huuumm I donât mean to be annoying but I kinda need the opposite lol
I have created a document that I want to share publicly and embed it on a website. But it appears all expanded which isnât neat enough for my use and kind of prevent me to using Dynalist (although the tool looks terrific!). In my context, I would prefer using the workaround mention above, the first item of the document being an explanation of how it works.
Is there a way to do this and am I missing something?
Or did you transition from âcollapse allâ to âexpand allâ?
If you did, I would suggest to give a choice in the sharing management menu by adding the option to âexpand allâ or âcollapse allâ when you share. And that could apply to both âshared via linkâ or share with collaborator, since I understand what has been said above.
Iâm not sure how complicated this is: it would basically replace the action of:
Share the document
Open it and with the menu in front of the title click on âexpand allâ / âcollapse allâ
An other option, mentionned previously, would be to show the document in the way âit is first sharedâ, but that sounds more complicated than adding a shortcut to âexpandâ or âcollapseâ directly
âExpand allâ and âcollapse allâ only cover a small amount of cases though, sometimes you may want to customize it a bit more.
What we have in mind right now is to allow syncing the current snapshot of collapsed state to the shared version. Itâs basically a button that makes the shared copy exactly as yours right now (new items will still be expanded by default, but you can at least collapse the top level items). This way itâs more flexible for everyone.
Hi!
Iâm waiting for this feature too, because the automatic âall expandedâ state of my shared documents isnât appropriate to my usage The simple âexpand all / collapse allâ option would be a nice way to wait for a better solution.
Do you mind explaining a bit more how itâs not appropriate? Is there some performance issue?
In the menu of the top item, thereâs an option called âCollapse allâ, maybe you can write in the note asking the visitor to collapse things before viewing (only suggesting this as a temporary workaround if thereâs urgent need).
Iâm with LCMX. I need my shared documents to be collapsed, not expanded. I want to share one link with multiple notes and sub-notes. I donât want to make my recipients collapse my list every time they access it in order to find what they need.
As soon as shared documents appear in the same style they exist when the documents are created, Iâll quickly make the switch to Dynalist.
By the way, Iâm a teacher, and my current shared link in WorkFlowy (davidrhoades.link/assignments) is a growing list of daily assignments organized by class and date. Students and parents access my list all the time. If my requested feature is added in Dynalist and I switch from WorkFlowy, many people will be exposed to your product.
I read both sides.
Suggestion: Integrating @ruud 's workaround into the window that pops up when I click âShare itemâ.
2 more options could be added-
View the doc[Automatically add a note from Dynalist at the top on how to expand and use the shared the document]
Edit the document[Ditto]
The âFrom Dynalist teamâ note could be in red font - with a text explanation and a link to a gif showing it in action.
You could make this the default behaviour of the current View/Edit Sharing(with the facility to turn it off in Advanced settings).
Letâs say I am sharing it with someone who knows how Dynalist works - he/she would just ignore it. Otherwise, they would benefit from it.
When you have a large list with many sub bullets under each bullet, it is an absolute nightmare to share this list with ALL BULLETS expanded. It looks so messy, itâs terrible. By default, it should only show the MAIN BULLETS, so that you can choose which one to go into and expand. It just would make the most sense.
Not sure if you read the thread, but the issue with that is some people have no idea the main bullets can be expanded. Not all viewers know how to use Dynalist.
Okay but on the contrary, the ISSUE is that not all people know how to collapse everything and the volume of information can be so overwhelming that they will just close out of it.
People are attracted to short and condensed information that can be expanded as needed which is what Dynalist of course is all about.
Otherwise, I could just send them a link to a Word document where everything is EXPANDED and overwhelming.
The beauty of Dynalist IS: that you can collapse every bullet point that contains sub bullet points. Itâs what makes this tool so useful and easy to use and look at.
In the meantime, until this feature is fixed. I would like to provide a workaround:
Go ahead and share your list
Open the list
Click on the magnifying glass in the upper right corner to search
And enter some criteria that only pertains to the MAIN HEADINGS It will have to be criteria that ONLY the main headings are using, in my example, it is emojis only used in the main headings.
Make sure you separate the criteria with OR statements
Only downside? Well, it fills up your search box. So if you want to search, you will either have to clear the box first or manage to squeeze your cursor at the very end and before entering your search term(s).
PS. Just so you donât get a wrong impression: I absolutely LOVE Dynalist! Thank you so much for all you do!!