What features would make the Pro plan more lucrative?

Instead of having True Offline Mode, could we have it for some documents, with an option to set a folder (on the local disk) to save the contents to? Would that make it easier to implement?

I think thatā€™s basically what True Offline Mode entails :slight_smile:

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FYI moo.do has just moved away from syncing to the userā€™s private Google Drive over to Firebase. Their former approach worked well for me and others whose workplaces use Google behind the firewall. In other words, no external data storage/syncing was taking place - all data was staying behind the corporate firewall. This was a huge differentiator for moo.do compared to other solutions like Dynalist. Now that differentiator is gone (although they are talking about implementing a true offline mode, it is not in place yet).

So, I would just reemphasize that there is a large underserved market out there of corporate users who have no options right now because their data must remain on the laptop or at least behind the firewall. With ā€œtrue offlineā€, Dynalist has an opportunity to fill that void. This is a ā€œplease take my moneyā€ type of situation.

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Thanks for the suggestion!

Right now the biggest problem is data recovery. Version history works with the server only, so thereā€™s no way to revert accidentally deleted data, unless if you do a full dish recovery. Does that sound the risk is worth it? We could port version history to offline, but it would take quite some work.

By the way, are you the same person who commented on our Trello card waaay back? https://trello.com/c/46l658SA/146-pro-true-offline-mode

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I would take your responsibility for data recovery off the table. Once the user chooses to run offline, itā€™s on them. Right now one can download a backup to plain text or OPML. If that functionality remains, super, it makes it easy for the user to run that once/day or once/week or whatever. But I would absolutely not let this stand in your way.

Given that Iā€™m currently stuck with no solution at work, which is terrible, I was reading back through Product Hunt yesterday. There are many quality options out there - but every one of them syncs only to the cloud (no local option). There is just such a clear opportunity here for someone to set themselves apart and tap into a large segment of the market that has money to spend.

And yes, that was me on Trello! Thanks

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Still not sure how this relates to Dynalist Proā€¦ You mean we should make Pro features more discoverable so people are aware of their usefulness?

You should definitely do that. Instead of HIDING pro features from regular users, you should make them show like normal but disabled and with a ā€œPROā€ label affixed.

That is toally correct. In my company every application wich synchs to any kind of cloud is straight out of hell :wink:
So me and some of my colleagues have to use Dynalist undercoverā€¦ :male_detective:

I suppose there are two options here: private cloud or no server. Private cloud means the DL people have to be able to replicate their tech to a private company cloud. I imagine thatā€™s the only way sync will be possible.

If you go serverless I suppose that entails a directory with files anc subfolders. This setup would allow someone to use CVS to share, archive and version documents.

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Yeah, definitely. It will be more work for us if people want to collaborate on a private cloud. Strictly offline (single person on a computer) requires less work.

Good to know! I guess the policy has its reasons, albeit inconvenient. Only if Dynalist has a local version!

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Yep, clever idea. Weā€™re doing that with recurring tasks right now, hopefully itā€™s not too intrusive.

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Great topic!

I would be great if there was a way to quickly move an item to the bottom of the current lists it in. Like in a list of rotating projects, instead of checking doneā€¦ we can send it to the bottom or (top ) of the list and focus on the next project or item in the queue.

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Interesting suggestion. We have customizable shortcuts to go to start/end of the list in keymap, but nothing for moving it there. We can simply add a customizable shortcut for it.

Do you want to start a new feature request thread for it? :smiley: Weā€™d really appreciate that!

Hey, new to the forum: So, I am wondering that for version history something like this would be amazing, although, I am not sure about the demand for this:

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Hi @SA

Welcome to the Forum :slightly_smiling_face:

Version history is built into Dynalist but itā€™s a Pro feature. Itā€™s accessible via the right click menu on a document in the left side panel (file pane).

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i am aware of that. I was talking about the chrome extension I linked along. It helps in visualizing multiple version histories together. Gives stats on number of revisions done. Has a time-slider which slides along different versions of a doc. Really amazing!

One idea Iā€™d have for Pro would be mindmaps - right now you have to be Pro to view an outline as a mindmap, but you canā€™t really share them. Being able to set an outline as mindmap-enabled for everyone to see would be really valuable.

The other thing is an issue with normal kb shortcuts - the Ctrl+. to expand/collapse is clunky to input if youā€™re keyboard surfing the bullet tree, which is something apps like these are really good at. I know ā€œimitate Workflowyā€ is probably an annoyingly common ask, but Ctrl+down/up to draw/push a bullet open/closed just feels so good intuitively, and Shift+Alt+arrow to move bullets is good to operate.

If you are Pro you can change the mapping. Ctrl-Up has a different established meaning that I like. I would have Ctrl-Space be expand /collapse myself though Iā€™m fine with Ctrl.Period

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Looks good!

Although itā€™s their entire product, and for us, version history is more like a safety measure. There are lots of priorities to juggle with our 2-person team, so unfortunately I donā€™t think weā€™ll commit to anything like that in the short term. Sorry about that!

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completely fine by me! Other features on your roadmap are more important than this, I wasnā€™t expecting this to be implemented. Besides, Dynalist isnā€™t a writing tool specifically so doesnā€™t make a lot of sense either.:+1::+1:

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